In a 40-minute interview, the internationally renowned epidemiology professor Knut Wittkowski from New York explains that the measures taken on Covid19 are all counterproductive. Instead of „social distancing“, school closures, „lock down“, mouth masks, mass tests and vaccinations, life must continue as undisturbed as possible and immunity must be built up in the population as quickly as possible. According to all findings to date, Covid-19 is no more dangerous than previous influenza epidemics. Isolation now would only cause a „second wave“ later.
The British Medical Journal (BMJ) reports that, according to the latest data from China, 78% of new test-positive individuals show no symptoms. An Oxford epidemiologist said that these findings are „very, very important.“ He added that if the results are representative, „then we have to ask, ‘What the hell are we locking down for?’“
Dr. Andreas Sönnichsen, head of the Department of General and Family Medicine at the Medical University of Vienna and chairman of the Network for Evidence-Based Medicine, considers the measures imposed so far to be „insane“. The whole state is being paralysed just to „protect the few it could affect“. In an interview with the German SWR, he explains that the spread of the virus cannot be prevented anyway.
In a world first, the Swedish government has announced that it is going to officially distinguish between deaths „by“ and deaths „with“ the coronavirus, which should lead to a reduction in reported deaths. Meanwhile, for some reason, international pressure on Sweden to abandon its liberal strategy is steadily increasing.
The Hamburg health authority now has test-positive deaths examined by forensic medicine in order to count only „real“ corona deaths. As a result, the number of deaths has already been reduced by up to 50% compared to the official figures of the Robert Koch Institute.
As early as 2018, the German Doctors Journal reported a „multitude of pneumonia cases“ in northern Italy, which worried the authorities. At the time, contaminated drinking water was suspected to be one of the causes.
The German Pharmaceutical Newspaper points out that in the current situation, patients often „fall seriously ill, even die, without having developed respiratory symptoms beforehand“. Neurologists suspect in this regard that the corona viruses could also damage nerve cells. Another explanation, however, would be that these patients, who are often in need of care, die due to the very high stress.
According to the latest figures from Switzerland, the most common symptoms of test-positive patients in hospitals are fever, cough and breathing difficulties, while 43% or about 900 people have pneumonia. Even in these cases, however, it is not a priori clear whether it was caused by the coronavirus or by other pathogens. The median age of the test positive deceased is 83 years, the range reaches up to 101 years.
The British project „In Proportion“ tracks mortality „with“ Covid19 in comparison to influenza mortality and all-cause mortality, which in Great Britain is still in the normal range or below and is currently decreasing.
In the US state of Indiana, calls to the mental health and suicide hotline have increased by over 2000% from 1000 to 25,000 calls per day due to the lockdown and its economic impact.
The medical specialist portal Rxisk points out that various drugs can increase the risk of infection with corona viruses by up to 200% in some cases.
Aggiungo un articolo del dottor Franchi sulla attendibilità dei test effettuati col tampone e sulle modalità con cui sono stati costruiti.
Ancora manca la validazione.
L'articolo è anche ricco di rimandi blibiografici.
Salve a tutti, ieri ho ricombinato parecchi materiali ma sto facendo tutto in powerpoint: è l'ambiente che più mi è consono e che permette di mostrare meglio le fonti ufficiali (proprio catture video) e a fianco le considerazioni.
A breve vi posto la bozza n° 2, poi mi dite i vostri pareri (anche se abbiamo perso Totalrec, Calvero e Gino Sighicelli che hanno scelto di farsi bannare, eventuali commenti me li possono mandare su sertes69 at gmail.com)
-- Non rispondo a troll o altri tipi di provocatori --
Mi sono letto tutta la discussione oggi, un ottimo lavoro.
Leggendo la bozza che avevate stilato mi erano venute in mente alcune osservazioni (e non mi preoccupo della loro eventuale banalità, visto che tale articolo andrà divulgato anche a persone che fanno osservazioni banali).
Tuttavia, visto che state per pubblicare una nuova versione, aspetto quella
Ho altri due intreventi corposi da mostrarvi. Sono purtroppo in inglese, coi sottotitoli si segue bene magari adrebbero prese e tradotte alcune parti.
Consiglio più il secondo che il primo. Soprattutto perchè il secondo scienziato è un esperto di epidemiologia e ci lavora da più di 35 anni. I punti principali della sua esposizione sono che questa è un epidemia influenzale come tutte le altre, che il Lockdown peggiora la situazione perchè non permette lo sviluppo dell'immuità di greggie naturale e quindi probabilemente questo comporterà una seconda ondata probabilmente in autunno, la quarantena inoltre ha peggiorato la situazione perchè il contagio aumenta al chiuso mentre diminuisce all'aria aperta, che l'epidemia ha già raggiuto il picco sia in Europa che in America.
Inoltre ha detto che la Cina e la sud corea hanno preso le misure contenitive quando erano già al picco del contagio, cosa che ha agevolato sia il decorso della malattia che la costituzione dell'immunità di greggie.
MI viene in mente che noi siamo stati i primi a chiudere, e abbiamo chiuso prima del picco del contagio, forse aggravando la nostra situazione....
Modificherei e arricchirei la pagina 24. I virus non ci aspettano fuori dalla porta, sono dentro di noi e si diffondono soprattutto nei luoghi chiusi.
Parlerei degli effetti dello stress, dell'ansia, degli eventi traumatici e dell'isolamento sociale sulla vulnerabilità alle infezioni delle vie aeree (alcune fonti a riguardo sono raccolte in questa pagina magazine.5lb.eu/2020/03/quarantena-stres...-influenza-5324.html sono quelle che ho messo all'inizio del topic).
Ricorderei il ruolo positivo di una moderata attività motoria sul sistema immunitario
refuso pg 14 "più capace a muove soldi", pg 17 "una settimana su water"
anacoluto pg 2 "che scommettono su eventi mai verificatisi ["-prima" / oppure "senza precedenti"] e che ci azzeccano ["azzeccandoci"]"
3 pagine di premesse le trovo un po' eccessive. Arrivare dritti al punto sarebbe preferibile.
Per esempio il punto 2 delle premesse: "Quello su cui l'articolo verte è...", dovrebbe essere il punto 1, e l'attuale punto 1 potrebbe essere incluso nel punto 3.
Il tema su cui verte l'articolo è sicuramente la cosa più importante, quindi sarebbe bene distinguerlo visivamente da tutti gli altri punti.
Il capitolo "Falso dilemma:" lo trovo francamente superfluo.
La frase di copertina è sicuramente un accostamento interessante, ma che ne dite di questa formulazione?:
War is CoV
Freedom is Reclusion
Ignorance is Cooperation
Mouth is Shut
-Quando si parla degli evento "premonitori" metterei Event201 come culmine dopo aver menzionato anche la simulazione tedesca del 2013 che prevedeva una pandemia nel 2020 ed anche la simulazione di pandemia del 2019 che (incredibilmente) indovinava Chicago come cittá dal quale sarebbe partito il contagio negli USA.
Volendo c'e' anche lo studio del laboratorio di Wuhan che parla proprio di coronavirus che parte dai pipistrelli.
-Quando si parla di operazioni economiche, i Pandemic Bond della World Bank mi sembrano d'obbligo.
Riporto un post da facebook che però è filtrato dai nomi e quindi la cui attendibilità è da mettere in discussione: www.facebook.com/matteogracis/videos/101...t_id=527912398152667
Matteo Gracis · 0:00 Ho ricevuto la seguente testimonianza in email di un'infermiera che opera in un ospedale italiano in Veneto. La riporto di seguito (con la sua autorizzazione) omettendo alcuni dati per tutelare la sua privacy:
"Mi chiamo XXX e sono un'operatrice socio sanitaria, lavoro a XXX, ora "Covid Hospital". Lavorando dentro l'ospedale vorrei confermarti come pure qui a XXX io stia lavorando meno di prima!!! Il caso della Lombardia come tu ben dicevi, è lontanissimo dalla situazione qui! Temevo di vedere pazienti, anche giovani, da assistere in situazioni emotivamente drammatiche invece non è così... qui hanno inaugurato la rianimazione con 18 posti ma non è mai stata piena, e il nostro bacino di pazienti comprende pure la zona di XXX. Io non ho paura di questo virus per me stessa, forse un po' per la mia nonna che ovviamente non vedo da più di un mese e sto seguendo le regole....ma già qualche sett fa ho chiesto al mio caposala (che considero essere pensante): se nessuno ci avesse detto che gira sto virus, sarebbe cambiato qualcosa nella nostra realtà?? Ebbene lui mi dice che il virus provoca disturbi anomali ai polmoni..e che è molto virulento...e che in zona Lombardia è successo qualcosa....e fa una faccia che si capisce che qualcosa sa più di me ovviamente..oggi sento il tuo video sui dati Istat e mi dico...se nessuno ci avesse mai parlato di sto virus chi se ne sarebbe accorto? Ti ho scritto ste cose, le quali relativamente ai dati poco precisi sono già scritte nei giornali locali, per incoraggiarti a continuare le tue ricerche, per dirti che siamo in tanti a nutrire dubbi su quello che sta succedendo. Ti ringrazio del tuo contributo!!!"
Non serve più nemmeno ipotizzare la teoria del NWO, quattro giorni fa il Wall Street Journal ha pubblicato un articolo in cui l'opinionista d'eccezione Henry Kissinger spiega il nuovo ordine mondiale post Covid-19
The Coronavirus Pandemic Will Forever Alter the World Order
When the Covid-19 pandemic is over, many countries’ institutions will be perceived as having failed. Whether this judgment is objectively fair is irrelevant. The reality is the world will never be the same after the coronavirus.
The ultimate test will be whether the virus’s spread can be arrested and then reversed in a manner and at a scale that maintains public confidence in Americans’ ability to govern themselves. The crisis effort, however vast and necessary, must not crowd out the urgent task of launching a parallel enterprise for the transition to the post-coronavirus order.
No country, not even the U.S., can in a purely national effort overcome the virus. Addressing the necessities of the moment must ultimately be coupled with a global collaborative vision and program.
Ne copio il testo (ci sono mille immagini che diventa complesso e lungo sistemare):
The Trail Leading Back to the Wuhan Labs | National Review
About Jim Geraghty
Medical workers in protective suits attend to a patient inside an isolated ward of the Wuhan Red Cross Hospital in Wuhan, the epicenter of the novel coronavirus outbreak, in Hubei Province, China, February 16, 2020. (China Daily via Reuters)
There’s no proof the coronavirus accidentally escaped from a laboratory, but we can’t take the Chinese government’s denials at face value.
It is understandable that many would be wary of the notion that the origin of the coronavirus could be discovered by some documentary filmmaker who used to live in China. Matthew Tye, who creates YouTube videos, contends he has identified the source of the coronavirus — and a great deal of the information that he presents, obtained from public records posted on the Internet, checks out.
The Wuhan Institute of Virology in China indeed posted a job opening on November 18, 2019, “asking for scientists to come research the relationship between the coronavirus and bats.”
The Google translation of the job posting is: “Taking bats as the research object, I will answer the molecular mechanism that can coexist with Ebola and SARS- associated coronavirus for a long time without disease, and its relationship with flight and longevity. Virology, immunology, cell biology, and multiple omics are used to compare the differences between humans and other mammals.” (“Omics” is a term for a subfield within biology, such as genomics or glycomics.)
On December 24, 2019, the Wuhan Institute of Virology posted a second job posting. The translation of that posting includes the declaration, “long-term research on the pathogenic biology of bats carrying important viruses has confirmed the origin of bats of major new human and livestock infectious diseases such as SARS and SADS, and a large number of new bat and rodent new viruses have been discovered and identified.”
Tye contends that that posting meant, “we’ve discovered a new and terrible virus, and would like to recruit people to come deal with it.” He also contends that “news didn’t come out about coronavirus until ages after that.” Doctors in Wuhan knew that they were dealing with a cluster of pneumonia cases as December progressed, but it is accurate to say that a very limited number of people knew about this particular strain of coronavirus and its severity at the time of that job posting. By December 31, about three weeks after doctors first noticed the cases, the Chinese government notified the World Health Organization and the first media reports about a “mystery pneumonia” appeared outside China.
Scientific American verifies much of the information Tye mentions about Shi Zhengli, the Chinese virologist nicknamed “Bat Woman” for her work with that species.
Shi — a virologist who is often called China’s “bat woman” by her colleagues because of her virus-hunting expeditions in bat caves over the past 16 years — walked out of the conference she was attending in Shanghai and hopped on the next train back to Wuhan. “I wondered if [the municipal health authority] got it wrong,” she says. “I had never expected this kind of thing to happen in Wuhan, in central China.” Her studies had shown that the southern, subtropical areas of Guangdong, Guangxi and Yunnan have the greatest risk of coronaviruses jumping to humans from animals — particularly bats, a known reservoir for many viruses. If coronaviruses were the culprit, she remembers thinking, “could they have come from our lab?”
. . . By January 7 the Wuhan team determined that the new virus had indeed caused the disease those patients suffered — a conclusion based on results from polymerase chain reaction analysis, full genome sequencing, antibody tests of blood samples and the virus’s ability to infect human lung cells in a petri dish. The genomic sequence of the virus — now officially called SARS-CoV-2 because it is related to the SARS pathogen — was 96 percent identical to that of a coronavirus the researchers had identified in horseshoe bats in Yunnan, they reported in a paper published last month in Nature. “It’s crystal clear that bats, once again, are the natural reservoir,” says Daszak, who was not involved in the study.
Some scientists aren’t convinced that the virus jumped straight from bats to human beings, but there are a few problems with the theory that some other animal was an intermediate transmitter of COVID-19 from bats to humans:
Analyses of the SARS-CoV-2 genome indicate a single spillover event, meaning the virus jumped only once from an animal to a person, which makes it likely that the virus was circulating among people before December. Unless more information about the animals at the Wuhan market is released, the transmission chain may never be clear. There are, however, numerous possibilities. A bat hunter or a wildlife trafficker might have brought the virus to the market. Pangolins happen to carry a coronavirus, which they might have picked up from bats years ago, and which is, in one crucial part of its genome, virtually identical to SARS-CoV-2. But no one has yet found evidence that pangolins were at the Wuhan market, or even that venders there trafficked pangolins.
On February 4 — one week before the World Health Organization decided to officially name this virus “COVID-19” — the journal Cell Research posted a notice written by scientists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology about the virus, concluding, “our findings reveal that remdesivir and chloroquine are highly effective in the control of 2019-nCoV infection in vitro. Since these compounds have been used in human patients with a safety track record and shown to be effective against various ailments, we suggest that they should be assessed in human patients suffering from the novel coronavirus disease.” One of the authors of that notice was the “bat woman,” Shi Zhengli.
In his YouTube video, Tye focuses his attention on a researcher at the Wuhan Institute of Virology named Huang Yanling: “Most people believe her to be patient zero, and most people believe she is dead.”
There was enough discussion of rumors about Huang Yanling online in China to spur an official denial. On February 16, the Wuhan Institute of Virology denied that patient zero was one of their employees, and interestingly named her specifically: “Recently there has been fake information about Huang Yanling, a graduate from our institute, claiming that she was patient zero in the novel coronavirus.” Press accounts quote the institute as saying, “Huang was a graduate student at the institute until 2015, when she left the province and had not returned since. Huang was in good health and had not been diagnosed with disease, it added.” None of her publicly available research papers are dated after 2015.
The web page for the Wuhan Institute of Virology’s Lab of Diagnostic Microbiology does indeed still have “Huang Yanling” listed as a 2012 graduate student, and her picture and biography appear to have been recently removed — as have those of two other graduate students from 2013, Wang Mengyue and Wei Cuihua.
Her name still has a hyperlink, but the linked page is blank. The pages for Wang Mengyue and Wei Cuihua are blank as well.
(For what it is worth, the South China Morning Post — a newspaper seen as being generally pro-Beijing — reported on March 13 that “according to the government data seen by the Post, a 55 year-old from Hubei province could have been the first person to have contracted Covid-19 on November 17.”)
On February 17, Zhen Shuji, a Hong Kong correspondent from the French public-radio service Radio France Internationale, reported: “when a reporter from the Beijing News of the Mainland asked the institute for rumors about patient zero, the institute first denied that there was a researcher Huang Yanling, but after learning that the name of the person on the Internet did exist, acknowledged that the person had worked at the firm but has now left the office and is unaccounted for.”
Tye says, “everyone on the Chinese internet is searching for [Huang Yanling] but most believe that her body was quickly cremated and the people working at the crematorium were perhaps infected as they were not given any information about the virus.” (The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says that handling the body of someone who has died of coronavirus is safe — including embalming and cremation — as long as the standard safety protocols for handing a decedent are used. It’s anyone’s guess as to whether those safety protocols were sufficiently used in China before the outbreak’s scope was known.)
As Tye observes, a public appearance by Huang Yanling would dispel a lot of the public rumors, and is the sort of thing the Chinese government would quickly arrange in normal circumstances — presuming that Huang Yanling was still alive. Several officials at the Wuhan Institute of Virology issued public statements that Huang was in good health and that no one at the institute has been infected with COVID-19. In any case, the mystery around Huang Yanling may be moot, but it does point to the lab covering up something about her.
China Global Television Network, a state-owned television broadcaster, illuminated another rumor while attempting to dispel it in a February 23 report entitled “Rumors Stop With the Wise”:
On February 17, a Weibo user who claimed herself to be Chen Quanjiao, a researcher at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, reported to the public that the Director of the Institute was responsible for leaking the novel coronavirus. The Weibo post threw a bomb in the cyberspace and the public was shocked. Soon Chen herself stepped out and declared that she had never released any report information and expressed great indignation at such identity fraud on Weibo. It has been confirmed that that particular Weibo account had been shut down several times due to the spread of misinformation about COVID-19.
That Radio France Internationale report on February 17 also mentioned the next key part of the Tye’s YouTube video. “Xiaobo Tao, a scholar from South China University of Technology, recently published a report that researchers at Wuhan Virus Laboratory were splashed with bat blood and urine, and then quarantined for 14 days.” HK01, another Hong Kong-based news site, reported the same claim.
This doctor’s name is spelled in English as both “Xiaobo Tao” and “Botao Xiao.” From 2011 to 2013, Botao Xiao was a postdoctoral research fellow at Harvard Medical School and Boston Children’s Hospital, and his biography is still on the web site of the South China University of Technology.
At some point in February, Botao Xiao posted a research paper onto ResearchGate.net, “The Possible Origins of 2019-nCoV coronavirus.” He is listed as one author, along with Lei Xiao from Tian You Hospital, which is affiliated with the Wuhan University of Science and Technology. The paper was removed a short time after it was posted, but archived images of its pages can be found here and here.
The first conclusion of Botao Xiao’s paper is that the bats suspected of carrying the virus are extremely unlikely to be found naturally in the city, and despite the stories of “bat soup,” they conclude that bats were not sold at the market and were unlikely to be deliberately ingested.
The bats carrying CoV ZC45 were originally found in Yunnan or Zhejiang province, both of which were more than 900 kilometers away from the seafood market. Bats were normally found to live in caves and trees. But the seafood market is in a densely-populated district of Wuhan, a metropolitan [area] of ~15 million people. The probability was very low for the bats to fly to the market. According to municipal reports and the testimonies of 31 residents and 28 visitors, the bat was never a food source in the city, and no bat was traded in the market.
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the World Health Organization could not confirm if bats were present at the market. Botao Xiao’s paper theorizes that the coronavirus originated from bats being used for research at either one of two research laboratories in Wuhan.
We screened the area around the seafood market and identified two laboratories conducting research on bat coronavirus. Within ~ 280 meters from the market, there was the Wuhan Center for Disease Control & Prevention. WHCDC hosted animals in laboratories for research purpose, one of which was specialized in pathogens collection and identification. In one of their studies, 155 bats including Rhinolophus affinis were captured in Hubei province, and other 450 bats were captured in Zhejiang province. The expert in Collection was noted in the Author Contributions (JHT). Moreover, he was broadcasted for collecting viruses on nation-wide newspapers and websites in 2017 and 2019. He described that he was once by attacked by bats and the blood of a bat shot on his skin. He knew the extreme danger of the infection so he quarantined himself for 14 days. In another accident, he quarantined himself again because bats peed on him.
Surgery was performed on the caged animals and the tissue samples were collected for DNA and RNA extraction and sequencing. The tissue samples and contaminated trashes were source of pathogens. They were only ~280 meters from the seafood market. The WHCDC was also adjacent to the Union Hospital (Figure 1, bottom) where the first group of doctors were infected during this epidemic. It is plausible that the virus leaked around and some of them contaminated the initial patients in this epidemic, though solid proofs are needed in future study.
The second laboratory was ~12 kilometers from the seafood market and belonged to Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences . . .
In summary, somebody was entangled with the evolution of 2019-nCoV coronavirus. In addition to origins of natural recombination and intermediate host, the killer coronavirus probably originated from a laboratory in Wuhan. Safety level may need to be reinforced in high risk biohazardous laboratories. Regulations may be taken to relocate these laboratories far away from city center and other densely populated places.
However, Xiao has told the Wall Street Journal that he has withdrawn his paper. “The speculation about the possible origins in the post was based on published papers and media, and was not supported by direct proofs,” he said in a brief email on February 26.
The bat researcher that Xiao’s report refers to is virologist Tian Junhua, who works at the Wuhan Centre for Disease Control. In 2004, the World Health Organization determined that an outbreak of the SARS virus had been caused by two separate leaks at the Chinese Institute of Virology in Beijing. The Chinese government said that the leaks were a result of “negligence” and the responsible officials had been punished.
In 2017, the Chinese state-owned Shanghai Media Group made a seven-minute documentary about Tian Junhua, entitled “Youth in the Wild: Invisible Defender.” Videographers followed Tian Junhua as he traveled deep into caves to collect bats. “Among all known creatures, the bats are rich with various viruses inside,” he says in Chinese. “You can find most viruses responsible for human diseases, like rabies virus, SARS, and Ebola. Accordingly, the caves frequented by bats became our main battlefields.” He emphasizes, “bats usually live in caves humans can hardly reach. Only in these places can we find the most ideal virus vector samples.”
One of his last statements on the video is: “In the past ten-plus years, we have visited every corner of Hubei Province. We explored dozens of undeveloped caves and studied more than 300 types of virus vectors. But I do hope these virus samples will only be preserved for scientific research and will never be used in real life. Because humans need not only the vaccines, but also the protection from the nature.”
The description of Tian Junhua’s self-isolation came from a May 2017 report by Xinhua News Agency, repeated by the Chinese news site JQKNews.com:
The environment for collecting bat samples is extremely bad. There is a stench in the bat cave. Bats carry a large number of viruses in their bodies. If they are not careful, they are at risk of infection. But Tian Junhua is not afraid to go to the mountain with his wife to catch Batman.
Tian Junhua summed up the experience that the most bats can be caught by using the sky cannon and pulling the net. But in the process of operation, Tian Junhua forgot to take protective measures. Bat urine dripped on him like raindrops from the top. If he was infected, he could not find any medicine. It was written in the report.
The wings of bats carry sharp claws. When the big bats are caught by bat tools, they can easily spray blood. Several times bat blood was sprayed directly on Tians skin, but he didn’t flinch at all. After returning home, Tian Junhua took the initiative to isolate for half a month. As long as the incubation period of 14 days does not occur, he will be lucky to escape, the report said.
Bat urine and blood can carry viruses. How likely is it that bat urine or blood got onto a researcher at either Wuhan Center for Disease Control & Prevention or the Wuhan Institute of Virology? Alternatively, what are the odds that some sort of medical waste or other material from the bats was not properly disposed of, and that was the initial transmission vector to a human being?
Virologists have been vehemently skeptical of the theory that COVID-19 was engineered or deliberately constructed in a laboratory; the director of the National Institutes of Health has written that recent genomic research “debunks such claims by providing scientific evidence that this novel coronavirus arose naturally.” And none of the above is definitive proof that COVID-19 originated from a bat at either the Wuhan Center for Disease Control & Prevention or the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Definitive proof would require much broader access to information about what happened in those facilities in the time period before the epidemic in the city.
But it is a remarkable coincidence that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was researching Ebola and SARS-associated coronaviruses in bats before the pandemic outbreak, and that in the month when Wuhan doctors were treating the first patients of COVID-19, the institute announced in a hiring notice that “a large number of new bat and rodent new viruses have been discovered and identified.” And the fact that the Chinese government spent six weeks insisting that COVID-19 could not be spread from person to person means that its denials about Wuhan laboratories cannot be accepted without independent verification.
Per l'angolo del buon umore
lascio un link
che racconta una vicenda di poche ora fa e plaudere al grande lavoro della polizia, che ha sempre a cuore il benessere del paese e soprattutto il rispetto dei cittadini che gli pagano (loro malgrado) lo stipendio.
- A pag.11 c'è un errore grammaticale "stiamo dicendo che la gente più capace a muove(RE) soldi nel pianeta etc etc"
- Per integrare il discorso sull'inattendibilità (palese) dei dati suggerisco il punto 5 di questo articolo, che mette in evidenza ulteriori variabili che contribuiscono alla formazione della curva che utilizzano per decidere tutte le misure adottate: comedonchisciotte.org/emergenza-coronavi...nomica-come-uscirne/
- Suggerirei anche di porre l'attenzione sul colpevole (mai trovato) della fuga di notizie sul blocco imminente, che di fatto ha spinto le persone a scappare da quella che sarebbe diventata zona rossa, permettendo al governo di estenderla a tutto il paese. Come mai non è stato trovato e adeguatamente perseguito un soggetto/i che virtualmente avrebbe potuto causare una strage (almeno agli occhi della narrazione dominante per la quale saremmo morti tutti senza drastiche misure di quarantena)?
- Per il resto cercherei di eliminare/ridurre i riferimenti a quelle che per me/voi sono menzogne palesi (es 11/09), semplicemente con l'intento di raggiungere più persone possibili (molte delle quali, purtroppo, sono talmente cieche da non conoscere le basi del mondo in cui vivono).
- Per ora non mi viene in mente altro, mi pare che il resto evidenzi in modo abbastanza completo quelli che sono i dubbi e le incongruenze (anche logiche) di tutta questa situazione.
Aggiungo che non ho la presunzione alcuna di sentirmi parte di questo lavoro, avendo tempo provo ad evidenziare punti di vista differenti, che più sono meglio è.
Sentitevi totalmente liberi di ignorarli nel caso siano ovvi o già stati evidenziati precedentemente
ALBANY, N.Y. – The majority of New York’s more than 4,700 deaths due to coronavirus were among men, and 86% of all deaths were among people who had underlying illnesses, such as hypertension and diabetes, new state data shows.
The statistics released late Monday offered the latest glimpse into how the rapidly spreading virus has impacted New York and made it the epicenter for COVID-19 in the nation.
Of the 4,758 deaths in New York since the first on March 14, 61% were men and 39% were women, the state Department of Health reported on its new data portal.
In addition, 63% of the deaths were among those age 70 and older, while 7% of the cases were those 49 and younger.
And 4,089 of those who died had at least one other chronic disease, the records showed:
The leading underlying illness was hypertension, which showed up in 55% of the deaths.
Next was diabetes, which was diagnosed in 1,755 deaths, or about 37% of the cases.
Other top illnesses found in those who died from coronavirus were hyperlipidemia; coronary artery disease; renal disease and dementia.
Dusty ha scritto: twitter.com/BitcoinBrains/status/1246841596936511488
Per l'angolo del buon umore
lascio un link
che racconta una vicenda di poche ora fa e plaudere al grande lavoro della polizia, che ha sempre a cuore il benessere del paese e soprattutto il rispetto dei cittadini che gli pagano (loro malgrado) lo stipendio.
Questo grafico tradirebbe che le morte per altre patologie ora vengono attribuite al Coronavirus, e per questo le altre risultano meno letali?
Ok, ho tolto i riferimenti al 9/11 nelle pagine di premesse… ma stiamo facendo un documento per dire che il coronavirus è un complotto a gente che non ha capito nemmeno il 9/11?
Allora non ho molto da criticare anche perchè non sono abituato a fare questo genere di lavori. Per me poteva rimanere tranquillamente, tanto non è sicuramente quello che ne limita la credibilità, piuttosto è l'immensa coltre di terrore e paura che non permetterà di riconoscere il messaggio insito nella presentazione.
Farei un aggiunta secondo me fondamentale sulla quarantena, nella slide "stare al chiuso peggiora le cose", ovvero aggiungerei che addirittura Aumenta i contagi e non li diminuisce, come asserito dall'ultimo esperto che ho linkato.
E' molto più difficile essere contagiati all'aria aperta che in luoghi chiusi, ciò è dimostrato anche del numero elevato di medici che hanno contratto l'infezione, nonchè dai focolai nelle case di riposo.
Aggiungerei anche la considerazione sull'immunità di greggie. Se avessimo permesso il contagio tra la popolazione più forte, ora l'immunità di greggie avrebbe escluso la possibilità di un ritorno di una seconda ondata epidemica diminuendo il numero delle persone suscettibili al virus.
Invece così facendo mi viene da pensare che, siccome al sud pare proprio non ci siano stati grossi contagi, in autunno è credibile che il focolaio parta proprio da li.
A me pare che tutto ciò che è stato fatto sia Controproducente
Un altra considerazione la si può fare sulla anomalia di rilevamento dei contagi. Mentre nell'influenza normale viene prima rilevato il sintomo e poi si va a vedere con le analisi qual'è l'agente patogeno, in questo caso prima si rileva il patogeno e poi si attende di rilevare i sitomi. Questo è evidente nei rapporti bisettimanali a livellol regionale.
Ha un senso dal punto di vista medico clinico, non ha senso da un punto di vista epidemiologico.
Infatti si hanno un numero notevole di contagiati che però non è correlato allo stesso numero di sintomatici.
Detto questo non è necessario inserire quello che ho scritto, se ha un senso aggiungilo se no lo lasciamo qui a futura memoria.
Grazie comunque. Ottimo lavoro.
Esempio eclatante, la Campania. Quanto dobbiamo ancora aspettare per avere la presenza di un sintomo che uno?
Perchè una ragione così deve ancora essere costretta alla quarantena?
Le colonnine verdi sono i tamponi positivi
Quelle blu, che non ci sono, sono la data inizio sintomi.
L'ultimo sintomo rilevato è il 12 marzo?
Non vengono registrati?
Aggiungo, ci sono stati 87 decessi, ma a logica sono molti di più del totale delle persone che hanno registrato sintomi...
Sono proprio dati forniti alla cazzo allora.
Altro dati importante da tenere d'occhio in futuro. Anche questo in crescita rispetto all'ultimo report. Siamo a 1290 cartelle cliniche visionate.